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Depression

Depression

Erasmus : This page introduces depression, bipolar disorder and seasonal affective disorder. The DSM IV definition of depression is discussed along with the difficulty of making and confirming a diagnosis by any means except clinical judgement. The Paill Spectrum model suggests that clinical criteria are missing in our definition of depression. These are important as they suggest new possible treatments for depression.

DR Xxxxx : Depression Symptoms : New Treatment

Depression covers diagnoses such as : Major Depression, manic depression, clinical depression, bipolar depression, SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder). Terms used in association with depression include sad, mad, bad, volatile mood, irritable, panic or anxiety or anxious depression, failing relationship, bad behaviour and road rage.

In the Paill Spectrum model, otherwise unappreciated but likely associated symptoms include: insomnia, impulsive actions ,many mental symptoms including psychotic type symptoms and abnormal intense thoughts, insomnia, Autism, Aspergers, dyslexia, schizophrenia, memory loss, ADD, chronic fatigue, learning difficulties, hair loss and obesity .

The role of a new model of illness ,called Paill Spectrum in the causation of many diseases, symptoms and conditions with no currently known cause is discussed. The Paill Spectrum model predicts that there are a number of symptoms and signs of mental illness that are not realised to be associated with depression. .

Treatments for the Paill Spectrum Depressive illness include aspects of gluten free diet, coeliac diet, vitamin tablets, antibiotics . Antidepressant medications are useful in both the standard medical model and the Paill Spectrum theory, but the Paill Spectrum model strongly suggests that antidepressant medications are simply symptom controlling measures, unless some very specific chemical and immune actions occur. Neurogenesis can occur with some antidepressants but is not thought to be an important aspect in depression therapy. The Paill Spectrum model suggests that any improvement in symptoms due to neurogenesis is likely to only be temporary. Treating mental illness in the Paill Spectrum model with counselling is as likely to generate the same long term consequences as treating a case of chickenpox with counselling.

DR Xxxxx : Depressive Disorders: A listing

• Dysthymia,
• Bipolar Disorder,
• Major Depression,
• Depressive Personality,
• Melancholy,
• Psychotic Depression,
• Psychosis.
• Common names for the illness, covers terms such as Sad, Unhappy, Sadness, Badness, Miserable, Grief, Stress, Being Down, and Being Blue.
• SAD, Seasonal Affective Disorder.
  

These are Other Names for Depression and Related Illnesses.

DR Xxxxx : Features of These Clinical Disorders :-[

The characteristic feature of any depression, is a chronically "depressed mood" state. 

DR Xxxxx : Other common features associated with depressive illnesses include

• sad mood, sadness,
• down in the dumps,
• irritability, or irritable mood. 

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DR Xxxxx : During periods of depression affected people may have

• poor appetite or overeating,
• insomnia or hypersomnia (reduced sleep or increased sleepiness),
• low energy or fatigue or tiredness,
• low or poor self esteem,
• poor concentration,
• difficulty making decisions and
• feelings of hopelessness. 

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DR Xxxxx : Affected individuals may

• feel or note self-criticism,
• feel that they are uninteresting or incapable. 

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Many symptoms, have become so ingrained in a person’s life, that they are not even reported to doctors.
Why do humans have so many ailments that need medical attention, often lifelong? This dog looks a little down for a few seconds, but will bounce back happy again with just a single call of his master's voice.

Kinkajou: What is a Depression, Really?

DR Xxxxx : Depression occurs at any age and the current medical opinion is that there is no known cause.  Some people experience terrible stresses and adverse events in their lives and recover well. Other people seem to fall apart and cannot recover their drive and enthusiasm for life in the long-term. Everyone has bad things happen in their life, but for depressed people the bad times seem to become magnified and become a prominent feature in their lives. ;-|

• So the question becomes, Why do some people become depressed and some people do not" ?
  • There is no answer to this in the standard medical model. These things just happen, although everyone who is depressed finds something to be depressed about.
    Strangely, many people with the same adverse events in their lives, do not become depressed, although they may become very unhappy about their circumstances.
  • The Paill Spectrum model suggests that there are clinical symptoms and blood tests that will indicate who may be about to undergo a depression.
  • The Paill Spectrum model also predicts how people may take a prolonged period of time without treatment before they recover from their depression.
  • The Paill Spectrum model further says that these clinical signs and blood tests can be used to plot recovery.
  • Finally, without adequate treatment of the underlying risk factors that have triggered the illness, there are likely to be recurring depressive events.(According to the Paill Spectrum model of depression). Back to Depression top

Kinkajou: I get a Bit of Anxiety with my Depression. Is "Anxiety" Related to Depression?

• Kinkajou: Can you predict who is likely to be depressed?
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  • DR Xxxxx : There is no answer to this in the standard medical model. Everyone is at risk of depression at some stage of their life. If you have been depressed before, you are likely to be depressed again. These things just happen.
  • The Paill Spectrum model says that depressions happen for a reason. There are specific disease processes occurring in the body that will lead to the triggering of a depression.
  • Long-term, perhaps over decades, other complications will occur which are predicted by the Paill Spectrum model, but which in the standard model have nothing to do with depression.
    (see Paill Spectrum Keywords).

• Kinkajou: Is there any blood test that can be done that can help a doctor to know if someone is depressed?
  • DR Xxxxx : There is no answer to this in the standard medical model.
  • The Paill Spectrum model says that yes, there are several blood tests that can be used to confirm the presence of a Paill Spectrum depressive illness.
    (See Doctor's Reference Information about Paill Depression). Back to Depression top

• Kinkajou: In fact, what is the difference between someone having a grief reaction and someone who is depressed and who will not recover without treatment?
  • DR Xxxxx : There is no answer to this in the standard medical model .There are no medical tests and the subjective judgement of the doctor is important in making this decision. So, some doctors will tell you that a depression is present and treat you, and some doctors will not diagnose depression and will not treat you.
  • The Paill Spectrum model predicts that the person with minimal clinical signs of Paill Spectrum and the "more" normal blood tests , is probably undergoing a grief reaction , not a Paill Spectrum depressive illness. The criteria for diagnosis in the Paill Spectrum model of depression are much more objective. Doctors will more likely make the same diagnosis because the same symptoms, signs or blood test criteria of illness are present.

DR Xxxxx : Many of these questions are very difficult to answer in the standard medical model that doctors use to understand depression. Often the answers or decisions come only with time.
The Paill Spectrum model is very definite about confirming the presence of depressive illness early, and the need for early effective treatment. Back to Depression top

Kinkajou: So, how do you treat Depression? :"-[
DR Xxxxx : Treatment Of Depression and Similar Illnesses

Treatment involves taking courses of antidepressant medications or drugs such as Zoloft (Sertraline), Avanza (mirtazapine), Cipramil (Citalopram), Effexor or Effexor XR (Venlafaxine), Aurorix (Moclobemide), Prozac (Fluoxetine), Aropax (Paroxetine), Tryptanol (Amitriptyline, often confused as amitriptyline / amitriptyline), , Sinequan (Doxepin) Edronax (Reboxetine), Luvox (Fluvoxamine). 

These (medications) treatments relieve the symptoms of the illness and make people feel better.

The Paill Spectrum model suggests that symptomatic treatment is still important in some patients. However, long-term treatment using the Paill Spectrum model will make people better. Flare ups of depression are also rare when effective Paill Spectrum therapy has been instituted.
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Erasmus : Genesis & Treatment of the Depressive Disorders

The Paill Spectrum disease model as pioneered by Dr. Xxxxx, suggests that many depressions and depressive like illnesses are caused by infection with the Paill Spectrum organism.  (Perhaps a “first wave” Paill Spectrum disorder).

The presence of the causative infection in the model

• can be detected by specific blood tests,
• responds to specific antibiotics
• responds as well to specific nutritional therapies. Back to Depression top

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Response to treatment of the disease is

• (documentable by an antibody response to those same antibiotics or nutritional therapies) and
• is associated with other characteristic symptoms unique to the Paill Spectrum organism. 
• These other symptoms will also improve subtly, slowly and definitely with Paill Spectrum treatment.

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It is critical to treat people with effective therapy, not just symptomatic antidepressant medication, or drugs.  Medicine for “symptoms” does not change the progress of the disease. Current thinking on depression relies on medications to control the symptoms of the disease, but relies on nature and time to do the healing.

Erasmus : The Paill Spectrum model of disease as developed by Dr. Xxxxx suggests that it is possible to alter the long term progression of a depressive illness with Paill Spectrum therapy. This is a very radically different stance to the current thinking of the medical profession. The Paill Spectrum model also states that a depressed patient who is not treated effectively for Paill Spectrum depression , will experience other symptoms that are currently not thought to be associated with depression.
Strange thoughts and beliefs and memory loss are basic examples. Back to Depression top 

Other more complex symptoms include unknown disorders such as Process Sequencing Disorder, Thought Association deterioration, Dyslexia (in younger affected patients), and psychosis.
See the Paill CDs written by Dr. Xxxxx for more details.

Paill Spectrum Depression makes many people into "basket" or "trolley" cases, as their life begins to fall apart. They stop looking after themselves and lose confidence in many aspects of their daily lives. Depressed people lose interest in their environment.

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  Often Unrecognised Symptoms of Paill Spectrum in Depressed Patients include:

  • Sore regions of the body such as sore elbows (tennis or golfers elbows),
  • Sore chest,
  • Sharp chest jabs often called by doctors: atypical chest wall pains: not your heart, (non-cardiac).
  • Poor balance
  • Sweaty Hands. Back to Depression top 

• The current medical model says that these symptoms have nothing to do with a depression. The Paill Spectrum model predicts that they are likely to be found in a patient with depression. Aches and pains are more common in mid-adulthood, while symptoms such as sweaty hands are common from even early ages, though they do tend to "burn out" in older adults.

• • Poor memory: failing ability to recall phone numbers
  • Narrow mindedness
  • Mood volatility: rapid escalations or changes in mood state with the affected people often being easily distracted
  • Capacity to show “rage” Back to Depression top 

  • The current medical model says that poor memory or forgetfulness may occur if people are feeling unwell. The Paill Spectrum model predicts that this symptom is part of a long term deterioration process that is inherently part of and associated with, the depressive illness.

    Narrow mindedness is not mentioned in the standard model of depression. This symptom is an inherent part of the Paill Spectrum disease process. It is however difficult to assess and may be only obvious to co-workers of the affected person. The affected person forgets things, does not think to do things and for example, begins to annoy their co-workers by not even realizing that they need to do things to keep their workplace running. e.g. "No one told me that I need to empty the rubbish bins", even though they are overflowing onto the floor. Back to Depression top 

    Mood volatility and irritability are described as minor issues in the standard model of depression.

    In the Paill Spectrum model, mood volatility and irritability are an important symptom of the progression of the disease. Again, the only persons often realizing that there are problems, are the family members and relatives of the affected person. Sometimes , if it is the boss affected, of course everyone knows about the irritability. Personality issues are very important in the assessment of this symptom. Irritability is a much more important symptom if found in a placid personality type.
    (Enneagram (Synonyms: Annaegram, Ennaegram,Anagram, Anaegram, Annaegram).)
    
    
    
    
    

    DR Xxxxx : All these symptoms are expected in the Paill Spectrum model. They may precede , accompany, follow or occur independently of a depression:

    • Short little episodes of panics or jitters
    • Failing relationships
    • Impulsive behaviour
    • Distorted memories

    These symptoms are all markers for a disease that may be affecting a person's life. Many of these symptoms only become obvious when they are looked for over a time frame of decades.

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    .DR Xxxxx :

    • Short little episodes of panics or jitters
      • Often lasting only seconds, then disappearing for prolonged periods.
      • The standard depression model accepts that people can become anxious or get the jitters.
      • But, the Paill Spectrum model says that even short little bursts of jitters (seconds long), are an important marker of the Paill Spectrum disease process. These jitters will often precede the appearance of the depression proper, by many months or years. People almost never worry about the mild jitters as they go away very readily and never seem to cause much disturbance in letting people get on with their lives. Back to Depression top

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    • Failing relationships:
      • The partners of these people often think they are mad, as the depressed people develop intense fixations on particular ideas or beliefs.  These beliefs are inconsolable and are often unable to be changed by discussions with people around them.  They can be quite divorced from an understanding of life, such as “real men always watch the news. You can't be a real man unless you sit and watch TV and watch the news. (Many people live their lives in many different ways and what is important for one person may have no value at all to another. Still, the intensely held belief arises as if from nowhere).
      • There are a number of people who have a failed relationship and say it is because their partner is mad. Friends and carers look at these people with sympathy, never often realizing the vein of truth in the statement. Their partner may in fact have some fixed ideas that are unusual enough to be called mad by many others.
      • Irritability also contributes substantially to relationship problems and often precedes the appearance of a depression by quite some time. The Paill Spectrum model would predict this, while the standard model would say it is just some personality issues as there is nothing wrong with the person, yet. Back to Depression top 
      • A person with just irritability as a symptom, is likely heading for depression or worse in the Paill Spectrum disease model.
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    • Impulsive behaviour: stupid things done for stupid reasons, occasionally causing harmful social or legal consequences.
    • A serious late symptom of Paill Spectrum depression is distorted memories: The affected person remembers things. People who know the person well, realise that the things the patients are saying they remember, are quite untrue. This symptom typically occurs only in elderly adult patients. Distorted memories can occur independently of mood changes, but will of course always be found in association with other PaillSpectrum symptoms, signs or blood test changes. Back to Depression top

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    What Changes the Clinical Presentation of these Illnesses?

    • Many of these symptoms develop with and are more obvious in long-term illness. 
    • The symptoms are quite variable and there are substantial personality overlays.  Some people have aggressive personalties (Annaegrams, Ennaegrams) that present with very different behaviours to others.  So different patients can begin to look quite different. Some may be aggressive, some apathetic, some have more loss of confidence and others can become unexpectedly irritable, simply based on the personality overlaying the medical illness. (i.e. Paill Spectrum infection).

    Personality typing people is important as it allows doctors to consider symptoms that may be inconsistent with the personality type. i.e. These symptoms should not be seen in a person with this type of personality, and therefore must have arisen for a reason. Perhaps even a Paill Spectrum reason.

    .In summary, assessing just how sick people are, depends on a number of factors. The extent and number of Paill Spectrum symptoms, blood test results and very basic factors like the personality of the people involved. Personalities like the "4" (tragic romantic), on the Enneagram are much more likely to "be" their disease. Back to Depression top

    This patient experiences attacks of "Anxious Depression". This complex history shows the appearance of symptoms of Paill Spectrum such as headaches and the typical sore spots over many years. Paill Spectrum treatment resolves the symptoms. She relapses many months after ceasing treatment, a typical Paill Spectrum scenario.

    

  
  

Some Depressions are due to genes, aren't they? Like Bipolar? Back to Depression top

DR Xxxxx : Bipolar Disorder: Is it a Distinct Variety of Depressive Illness?

“Older” accepted medical opinion stated that bipolar depression or manic-depressive illness was a distinct genetically inherited disorder.  If you had the gene, you could likely get the disease.

Currently, the psychiatrists’ medical bible: the DSM IV TR does not state that this is true.  There does not seem to be a gene that causes bipolar depression. There does appear to be familial preponderance, (the condition runs in families). This suggests strongly that genes contribute susceptibility to the disease, but the DSM IV TR stops short of claiming a “gene” causes the illness.

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Erasmus : The Paill Spectrum model of disease as developed by Dr. Xxxxx suggests that although bipolar disorder has an impressive sounding distinct medical definition, the practicalities of using the DSM IV TR definition, blur any possibilities of identifying a distinct medical bipolar syndrome that may have a genetic cause. The definition is too fuzzy to help identify people who may have a depressive illness that is triggered by a particular gene. Different doctors using the same criteria will come to different diagnoses. (Common themes or underlying causes of illness are therefore unable to be identified as sick people may or may not be identified by individual doctors).

DR Xxxxx : DSM IV TR (DSM4 TR), describes a patient with bipolar depression as having a hypomanic or manic episode in their depression.  Hypomanic or manic events are essential to allow the diagnosis of Bipolar depression to be made. The key criteria for diagnosis of bipolar (namely, What is a hypomanic event?) are very loose and non-specific when one gets past all the impressive medical words.  Often doctors will describe anyone who is a bit irritable as hypomanic, so that subjective impressions of individual doctors are very likely to change the final diagnosis that the patient is given.

Many patients are often unable to be distinctly diagnosed for years, as all their illness symptoms have not developed.  (The standard medical model).

(The Paill Spectrum model of disease as developed by Dr. Xxxxx suggests that any patient who is a little bit irritable or impulsive with their depression, may often be diagnosed with bipolar depression by many doctors, rather than accepting that the irritability may be the result of a personality overlay or of Paill Spectrum infection.). 

The Paill Spectrum model predicts that irritability is likely to occur in the absence of a depression or in fact to precede the appearance of a depression by up to many years. The symptom is important in its own right. This is a predictable consequence of the Paill Spectrum disease theory.

The standard model of bipolar depressions does not suggest that mood volatility or irritability may lead to depression or other medical conditions at all.

The two models make quite different predictions as to the clinical course of the illnesses that people develop. The Paill Spectrum model in fact predicts that illness can be prevented if intervention is started early enough, before substantial damage is done.




Erasmus : The Paill Spectrum Disease Model as pioneered by Dr. Xxxxx, states that many patients with depressive illnesses including bipolar or dysthymia, are likely to have Paill Spectrum infection. (Dysthymia occurs where the person has mood swings only, rather than true depression or manic depression). Paill Spectrum infection is strongly influenced by genetically inherited, immune resistance factors.  There are a number of these factors, so the inheritance pattern would be expected to be complex or polygenic; exactly as the existing knowledge base on depressive illnesses, would suggest.

The Paill Spectrum model is consistent with the known objective facts that exiting medical knowledge has gleaned about depressions and related illnesses. Back to Depression top

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Kinkajou: What are the Indications that Depressive Disorders are related to Paill Spectrum Illnesses?

DR Xxxxx : Other symptoms of Paill Spectrum will often be found if searched for. 

• Distinct blood test changes will also be found. 
• Patients respond to both nutritional and antibiotic therapies.  Relying solely on antibiotic therapy is unwise with Paill Spectrum. 

The Paill Spectrum model of disease as developed by Dr. Xxxxx suggests that current psychiatric medications are excellent for symptomatic relief, in much the same way that Paracetamol (Panadol) gives relief from headaches or fever.  These medications make people feel better quickly.  They do not change the progress of the depressive illness.

DR Xxxxx : SAD: Seasonal Affective Disorder

This condition occurs when there is a mood deterioration, (People begin to feel depressed), supposedly related to lack of light, usually associated with winter months. Treatment exposes the patient to increased light exposure for several hours per day. This is generally believed to have the effect of increasing brain chemicals with a resultant improvement in mood.

Interestingly, Paill Spectrum infections worsen late into the cooler months of the year and would also result in seasonal illness / mood changes. The question then is whether the people who are being treated would respond to other therapies such as the Paill Spectrum treatment protocol. Also whether the response to therapy the people are experiencing is due to light exposure in treatment or heat associated with light exposure, (directly or indirectly).

• The Paill Spectrum disease model would predict that it is the heat that is more important in therapy, rather than just the light.
• The Paill Spectrum disease model would also predict that there are other modalities of treatment that would make a difference to the progression of the disease. Back to Depression top

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Kinkajou: Clinical Example of Depressive Illness in Paill Spectrum

See
Case I (Paill anxiety & depression) ,
Case III (Paill mood swings) ,
Case V (Paill anger & memory loss),
Case VI (Paill anxiety)
for profiles of a sudden onset depression (and other symptoms) in a previously well patients.

As may be seen in the examples, depression often occurs in context of other psychiatric symptoms or illnesses. The Paill Spectrum model predicts that specific symptoms or signs of one illness, namely Paill Spectrum infection, occurs in many patients. This one illness (Paill Spectrum), is obvious from an early stage though the progression of illness symptoms will vary in individual people depending on the extent of the infection. Back to Depression top 

Erasmus : Commentary on Patient’s Thinking on the Genesis of Depressions

It is surprising how many people blame current life circumstances for their depressive illness.  Dr. Xxxxx often hears people describe how grandma dying several months ago caused them to become ill.  Dr. Xxxxx states that his impression is that the key factor is probably the poor nutrition associated with the extra work or time commitment involved in caring for an ill loved one. This nutrition and self care deterioration may then trigger the depressive illness. 

Often the symptoms of Paill Spectrum, cause personality and mood changes obvious to people living or working with the depression-affected person. 
These are often eventually fatal to relationships with the affected person.
This eventually leads to a complex scenario of misery.
The Paill Spectrum affected person has an old unhappy memory from loss of a loved one
& a new very unhappy memory from loss of a relationship with consequent grief.

• (i.e. Paill Spectrum makes people depressed. When they feel depressed they focus on bad events on their lives and blame these for their circumstances. The Paill Spectrum infection also makes these people irritable so they are in fact irritable unpleasant and miserable people to live with. Quiet miserable people are generally tolerated better by their partners. Irritable miserable people are not The depressed and irritable person subsequently treats their partner badly. The existing relationship or marriage then breaks down, causing even more depression or mood changes.) Back to Depression top 
• (i.e. The partners of Paill Spectrum depressed individuals often walk out on their partners as they find them increasingly difficult to live with). : - [

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DR Xxxxx : Treatment & Prognosis of Depressions in the Paill Spectrum Disease Model

There is no magic cure for people who have a long history of depressive illness.  Only long term symptom minimisation.  The damage has already been done.  Without treatment however, this Paill Spectrum condition continues to progress. 

Paill Spectrum treatment comes as a package deal.  All of the types of nutritional and antibiotic therapy are critical to the long-term treatment success.  Bizarre events may occur with treatment, though predominantly with second line therapies.  The therapies promoted on this web site are freely promoted because they are the safest first line treatments that can change the course of the Paill Spectrum Illnesses causing the Depression like symptoms.  The Paill Spectrum model of disease as developed by Dr. Xxxxx suggests that these are signposts on the road to recovery, not as reasons to abandon treatment. Back to Depression top

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DR Xxxxx : Predictions of Prognosis for Depression & Related Illnesses in the Paill Spectrum Disease Model

The next phase of the progression of a long term Paill Spectrum depressive illness involves:

• Development of psychotic intensity ideas or beliefs, though these are often “normal” enough to be considered just a bit odd to people who know the affected person.

• Progressive Deterioration of memory
• Loss of Sequencing ability in terms of planning
• Further attacks of depression with episodes of jitters, panic, and anxiety.

The above symptoms are of course very late stage. The key prediction of the Paill Spectrum model is that depending on the age and Paill Spectrum status of the patient, the condition can have a number of different clinical appearances associated with the depression. Yes these people are depressed. But yes, there also seems to be a number of other symptoms often present, that our current understanding of depression does not expect to even exist. Back to Depression top

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Case 1: Comment

DR Xxxxx : This is a long complex history.  It shows how symptoms of Paill Spectrum appear over many years, often all the symptoms being apparently unrelated. 

Depression, anxiety, panic attacks, jitters, and chronic headaches that no doctor can help.  These symptoms all occur embedded in a years long forlorn quest for help from anyone: medical advisors, dietary supplement salespersons, natural therapists, relatives, and friends. 

Aches and pains, particularly in the shoulder tendons or in areas like tennis elbow or golfers elbow are seen in this patient.  Dizziness, and vague stomach pains are also experienced.  The interesting thing is how innocuously the symptoms appear and disappear.

All these symptoms are apparently unrelated.  However, there is really only one “significant” disease process behind it all.  Treating this one condition will change the prognosis for “all” these symptoms of illness. Back to Depression top

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Erasmus : Depression Symptoms : New Treatment

Depression covers diagnoses such as : Major Depression, manic depression, clinical depression, bipolar depression, SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder). Terms used in association with depression include sad, mad, bad, volatile mood, irritable, panic or anxiety or anxious depression, failing relationship, bad behaviour and road rage.

In the Paill Spectrum model, otherwise unappreciated but likely associated symptoms include: insomnia, impulsive actions ,many mental symptoms including psychotic type symptoms and abnormal intense thoughts, insomnia, Autism, Aspergers, dyslexia, schizophrenia, memory loss, ADD, chronic fatigue, learning difficulties, hair loss and obesity .

The role of a new model of illness ,called Paill Spectrum in the causation of many diseases, symptoms and conditions with no currently known cause is discussed. The Paill Spectrum model predicts that there are a number of symptoms and signs of mental illness that are not realised to be associated with depression. .

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Erasmus : For some reason, the admission that you are suffering from depression is becoming more mainstream. More and more people and doctors are prepared to accept that people can and do suffer from this illness.

DR Xxxxx : Apparently, they also think that just taking a few pills will make you happy and all will get better. Just keep on taking your meds.

Erasmus : In the Paill Spectrum model, depression is an aggressive progressive disease with many more symptoms than are currently realised.  Volatile mood, irritability, panic and anxiety, impulsiveness, anger and rage, memory loss, wired fixations, obsessions and thoughts, chronic fatigue, learning difficulties and bad behaviour are also likely to be seen. The condition of depression is not distinct to the diagnosis of Bipolar Affective disorder or of psychotic depression.

Dr AXxxxx The symptoms just change depending on which bit of brain is cooking off and how bad the cook off is. (Cackle). In Bipolar affective Disorder or Borderline personality disorder describes a predominance of frontal lobe brain damage. Psychotic depression implies the development of deep short circuits, how deep and how bad depending on the exact thought intruding unwanted into consciousness. Still those doctor idiots think they still just need a good talking to.

The answers re Paill lie deep within the human brain.
Dr AXxxxx : Actually the real idiots are the governments and health insurers who pay for people to be talked at and not treated. Again that “Suck it up Sunshine, and you’ll be alright attitude.

Erasmus : The role of a new model of illness, called Paill Spectrum in the causation of many diseases, symptoms and conditions with no currently known cause is discussed. We also look at the value and importance of nutritional treatment, the right supplements and diet in controlling this illness. They can indeed be surprisingly effective.

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